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    Updated: October 30, 2009

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    Crowd blasts school board over superintendent’s departure

    Chester school board president Wendy Murray with newly appointed interim Superintendent Harvey Hilburgh at Wednesday night’s meeting. Photo by Pamela Chergotis

    Harvey Hilburgh is new interim schools chief in Chester, By Becca Tucker

    Chester — There were new faces at the Chester school board dais, and one familiar face missing.

    District lawyer Mike Lambert joined the board, as did Interim Superintendent Harvey Hilburgh, a tall wiry man with graying hair in a crisp brown suit. Until called upon by the audience to speak, Hilburgh sat a chair’s length back from the table, as if reluctant to interfere.

    “I get no joy following somebody under these circumstances,” he said.

    Hilburgh will be standing in for former Superintendent Helen Anne Livingston until a permanent replacement can be found, ideally before the end of the school year. When the crowd started to razz Hilburgh about what he announced would be his $700-a-day salary — “the going rate for interim superintendents” — he joked: “I don’t officially start until tomorrow.” That produced the only laughter at the otherwise heated, accusation-filled meeting.

    The missing face was Livingston’s, and her absence the reason for this impromptu board meeting. The crowd that packed the auditorium was rowdy, yelling things like: “We’re asking questions and you’re not responding properly!” They booed, clucked, spoke out of turn, and exchanged high fives in the aisles. Thunderous applause greeted statements in support of the departed superintendent, and there was one standing ovation.

    Board President Wendy Murray read a “joint press release” by Livingston and the board that included a separation agreement, which grants Livingston paid leave while she pursues other employment. Livingston earns $139,000 a year. That means taxpayers will be paying Livingston’s salary, Hilburgh’s salary, and recruitment fees to search for a new and permanent superintendent.

    Before the board approved the agreement, John Pasichnyk called upon Jason LaTassa to recuse himself from the vote, saying that LaTassa had a $10 million lawsuit against the school district that alleges his son was improperly searched.

    “No,” said LaTassa, the tie-breaker in the 3-2 vote. Wendy Murray, Dawn DeLuca-Guevara and LaTassa voted to accept the agreement, while Pasichnyk and Frank Sambets voted against.

    Teachers and parents repeatedly hammered LaTassa for not having recused himself.

    Lambert explained that night, and again at Wednesday’s regular board meeting, that LaTassa was legally allowed to vote — indeed, he was obligated to do so.

    “A conflict of interest does not exist as a matter of law,” he said Wednesday. “When conflicts do not exist [board members] are obligated to vote.”



    ‘I don’t see you crying’

    The reason for Livingston’s sudden departure remains a mystery. That enraged parents and teachers, no matter how they felt about Livingston herself.

    Hilburgh explained that while it may seem things are being done in secret, “that’s what all boards have to do” when it comes to personnel issues. The separation agreement itself is accessible to the public under the Freedom of Information Law, but as for the details that led to the separation, “that will not come out,” Hilburgh said.

    “Oh, yes it will!” said a few voices from the crowd.



    Two teachers said Livingston had been crying at the faculty meeting last week when she announced her resignation, suggesting the agreement was not in fact mutual.

    “She was crying in front of us,” said one teacher. “I don’t see you crying that she left. Can the decision be reversed?”

    “There was a great deal of surprise and disappointment,” said Pam Kavanagh, president of the teacher’s union, which took out a half-page ad in support of Livingston in Thursday’s Times Herald-Record. She questioned whether “the board really realizes or understands the impact” of their action.

    “How is it possible to get a contract extension, and now all of a sudden she resigned?” asked Chester parent Dan Mulvey. “There’s something very fishy.”



    “Did she murder somebody?” asked his wife, Maureen Mulvey. “What happened?”

    “My voice is shaking because I’m upset,” said Joelle Newsome, another parent. “I feel like this was done in secret. I feel like you gave the public no chance in supporting Miss Livingston. Everyone here is here because we did not know what was going on.”

    Murray summed up: “What I can say is this. I read the statement put together between the superintendent and the board. I can assure all of you that no decisions get made lightly for this district. I myself as well as four other members of the board have children in this district. We take it very seriously, and we lose a lot of sleep over it.”

    After about an hour, Murray tried to adjourn the meeting but was shouted back to her seat.



    Wednesday night’s meeting was not as well attended as Tuesday’s, but some of Livingston’s supporters came out to speak along with some who supported the school board. Resident Dottie Connolly commended Murray for her behavior the previous night in the face of “a lot of undeserved animosity.”

    “I applaud the way you handled yourself,” she said. “Not many people could have handled what you did.”

    She compared the new board favorably to the old one, which had severely restricted public comment. Former board president John Pasichnyk often banged his gavel to shut people up during public comment sessions.

    “I have one question to ask you,” Connolly said, addressing Murray. “Did you wish you had a gavel last night?”

    Murray smiled but did not answer.

    Pamela Chergotis contributed to the reporting of this article.

     

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    Disgusted wrote on Feb 19, 2010 4:46 PM:

    " what about the ex. Supt. Helen Anne Livingston who sent pornographic emails to staff mebers and Chester BOE on school computers on school time.An investigation costing thousands of dollars was a red flag about Livingston's mental status. It was illegal she should have gone to jail for what she di. But it was all covered up. Livngston perjured herself under oath stating a child was raped in the Chester School District and she didn't want to hear it.Livingston is a pathological liar no complaint of a rape ever took place. If it did it was her responsibility to report it to the Town of Chester Police Dept.and make a report she is a very ill woman.Livingston will use anybody even children to push her sordid agenda.The district is well rid of her at any cost. Livngston should never be exposed to children again. "

    your statements are incorrect wrote on Nov 10, 2009 3:18 AM:

    " Pam Kavenagh is an experienced school psychologist who does have permanent NYS certification. Tenure is granted after three years of service except when an employee previously was granted tenure such as administrators receiving tenure as an administrator in their previous district. Then it is a two year probationary period. They did not get tenure in Chester illegally. The BOE members can check these facts out and put the rumors to rest with a simple statement that your information is incorrect. "

    to fed up wrote on Nov 7, 2009 10:32 PM:

    " First you were all upset because she left crying. Now you are upset about the money.
    Maybe it will come from that extra fund balance.
    There must be some reason that both parties agreed to this. I would like to know the truth.
    Please no assumptions. Just the facts. "

    fed up wrote on Nov 7, 2009 9:44 AM:

    " To a69:You did prove me wrong, there are ignorant people in Chester.This is not about Livingston, but about the money thrown away by this BOE. I am sure this does't affect you because you most probably live in a run down apartment in the village and do not pay school taxes. I probably pay more in school taxes than you earn in a year.I bet going to high school were the best ten years of your life.The point is the deal given to HAL. We are paying for 2 superintendents now in a time when Patterson is making budget cuts to education. I apologize if you don't know who Patterson is. Yes, there are some highly educated people in Chester who will seeking recourse. PS I lost my "ebonics" dictionary link so I cannot understand the garbage that you write. "

    who deleted this wrote on Nov 7, 2009 12:11 AM:

    " this whole Livingston corruption/scandal case got me thinking about you stubborn people who seem to believe her pack of lies.....
    All truth passes through 3 stages. FIRST it is ridiculed. Second it is violently oppossed (i guess where some of you folks are now), and Third, it is accepted as SELF-EVIDENT.

    Night. "

    ps wrote on Nov 6, 2009 8:05 PM:

    " Nice flyers. Did someone proofread them? "

    truths wrote on Nov 6, 2009 8:02 PM:

    " I do not feel sorry for the former supt. You people who stood up and screamed "I don't see you crying!"
    Give me a break. With that goodbye package they gave her to stay home, I would stay home too. I still say there is more to this story. I do not believe "the personal agenda" line. This board had some serious business with the mutal agreement. I think we need new layers that will negotiate better terms for the public. Isn't there a conflict of interest hear? "

    FED UP wrote on Nov 6, 2009 7:43 PM:

    " As for MR. LaTassa you ran for the BOE under false pretenses. I would never have voted for you if I knew you had a lawsuit against the school. CONFLICT OF INTEREST..This is what it means..and then to vote on Livingston ....Probably the first name in your lawsuit.... I'm sure is downright illegal... but I have put a call into the attorney gernerals office and we'll see...The TAXPAYERS OF Chester have been awoken by the loss of large sums of money being given away by this BOE... It is time for petitions...class action lawsuits...etc... to get these people to step down and be held accountable for their power hungry (at our expense) decisions "

    FED UP wrote on Nov 6, 2009 7:30 PM:

    " First I was never pro or anti Livingston. However, this BOE has just cost the taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars. If the decision of Livingston to leave was her own, as you want us to believe, then why didn't you just let her quit. Why the agreement and all of the money? because the BOE forced her to leave. The people of Chester are not ignorant and can see right through the smoke screen trying to be created. Think of what could have been done with the hundreds of thousands if we spent it on programs, activities, computers etc... You have failed the school, the students, the community, and the taxpayers. Don't even come up with a budget because there is no chance that even an increase of .00001% will pass after you threw away all of the taxpayers money. We will be on an austerity budget GUARANTEED
    next year after you threw away all of this taxpayer money. This BOE is the laughingstock of Orange County. Wasting our money when people are struggling to make ends meet. Ridiculous!!!! "

    My Hal wrote on Nov 6, 2009 1:29 PM:

    " " Dear Helen Haters, you suc!(not!!). Helen, I'm not mad at you at all. You probably never had a real job in your life. How could you know how incompetent you are? I don't blame you....I blame your PARENTS for creating the mess that is you. Funny how losers sometimes become the boss. Why? The competent people are too busy working, building, and creating. No time to play politics. So a little touch of evil like you can slither in. You have to cover your mediocrity (at best)with bluster, lust for power, deceit, and that superior feeling I'm sure you get when you can push "the little people' around. Well, you and your ilk, the supporters the Chronickel writes about as "crowd blasts", well they just blasted hot air like a fart in the wind. You and your cronies are OUT. The "little people" have spoken. We are tired of you, your friends, supporters and other users. Get your cheatin scheming agenda lard butts out of the way and let decent folks take over. Yes, the new BOE. Watch these decent people work if you can stand seeing decency. GOODBYE to you and your herd. And i love agent69. " "

    a69 wrote on Nov 6, 2009 11:18 AM:

    " bet she getz off, she always getz off. dat gal nos how to getz off. she getz off big. "

    Justice for all wrote on Nov 6, 2009 10:12 AM:

    " Livingston goes to court on Nov. 10th for harassment in the second degree. See below

    A person is guilty of harassment in the second degree when, with intent to harass, annoy or alarm another person:

    He or she strikes, shoves, kicks or otherwise subjects such other person to physical contact, or attempts or threatens to do the same; or
    He or she follows a person in or about a public place or places; or
    He or she engages in a course of conduct or repeatedly commits acts which alarm or seriously annoy such other person and which serve no legitimate purpose. "

    sadly wrote on Nov 6, 2009 8:41 AM:

    " Sadly the Yankee fan didn't take advantage of the learning institution he pays taxes to...With post like that it says that we are not getting our monies worth. "

    Reader wrote on Nov 6, 2009 7:31 AM:

    " Read the article...It's money well spent. Thank your former board for renewing her contract after all of the controversy.....According to her supporters, she is wonderful. Based on her record, she should get a job immediately....... "

    YankeeFan wrote on Nov 6, 2009 5:18 AM:

    " Read the article in todays THR, it spells out just how much this is costing the taxpayers of Chetser. Big round of applauds Ms. President way to spend that tax payer dime! Can't wait to see our scholl taxes next year! "

    truths wrote on Nov 5, 2009 5:22 PM:

    " Chester schools are running quite fine. The staff for the most part continues the day to day business of educating our children.
    Maybe teachers are even showing up to work on time. Maybe they are not running out the door before the children leave.
    Thank goodness. "

    You have the nerve to criticize Murray for sitting there and taking everyones garbage wrote on Nov 5, 2009 3:56 PM:

    " CHESTER The Chester school board and budget advisory committee held a meeting on March 14 that violated the open meetings law.

    Only three members of the public, in addition to a reporter from The Chronicle, attended the March 14 meeting. School board president John Pasichnyk checked to make sure the doors were locked

    parents were never told not to talk to the newspaper, they also fear retaliation from what they see as a vengeful administration.

    " Before the vote, school board president John Paichnyk cautioned the public that the board had the right to discuss all matters of hiring and firing behind closed doors in executive session, and that no inflammatory or defamatory comments would be permitted. "

    Where once there were two public participation section, now there is one public comment section. That didnt sit well...... "

    Summerfun wrote on Nov 5, 2009 3:22 PM:

    " Summerfun all year long.... Again I lol - that's why Ms. Murray try to make a run for it, when people were still talking. "

    oh well wrote on Nov 5, 2009 3:04 PM:

    " summerfun is just upset because it is now fall and summerfun is done...☺ "

    Excellent Job by two newcomers and new board president wrote on Nov 5, 2009 3:00 PM:

    " Positive is:
    1. Following the open meetings law
    2. Opening up communication with our local newspaper.
    3. Parents free to speak without fear of reprecussion.
    4. Free speech at Board Meetings
    5. Restoring a public participation at boe meetings.
    6. Reaching out to the public for ideas on PR
    7. A new academic policy to help our student succeed.
    8. Listening to concerns by the community, etc. "

    Good always supercedes evil wrote on Nov 5, 2009 2:52 PM:

    " You're right. We still have two board members from the last regime. How could anyone be positive when the former board president seems to be undermining our new board president Mrs. Murray every chance he gets.
    I wonder who could have given The Record such an inflammatory and accusatory statement about our president and two new board members? "

    a fact finder to a spin master wrote on Nov 5, 2009 2:45 PM:

    " Laugh you may but do the right thing and answer some
    questions. Stop putting a spin on your laughable "do the right thing" statement. Newly elected Mr. LaTassa and Mrs. Guevera are positive forces on the the school board. Thats why they were elected. Now Mrs. Murray(another positive force) doesnt have to stand alone anymore. "

    Summerfun wrote on Nov 5, 2009 1:35 PM:

    " New boe positive force - wow that really made me laugh! "

    Positive thinking parent wrote on Nov 5, 2009 12:41 PM:

    " to the last statement
    Whats getting old is the constant talking about Mr. Latassa. This town has moved on when 2 new board members were elected and Mrs. Murray became President. The school board became a positive force for the students, parents and taxpayers and the negative became
    the past. "

    to the last statment.. wrote on Nov 5, 2009 11:25 AM:

    " stop with the whining....its getting real old..this one did this, this one did that...sounds like a baby...move on...oh wait you cant...thats the problem.. "

    Summerfun....Do you agree wrote on Nov 4, 2009 11:13 AM:

    " Was this the right thing to do for the taxpayers/parents of the town? The former board and president Mr. Pasichnyk did a disservice to this community. The following are only a few examples of NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING.

    The public was banned from budget meetings.
    The doors were then locked until lunch time.

    Public participation was eliminated from board meetings.

    A select group of volunteers was chosen to sit on the budget committee. Certain volunteers with experience were rejected.

    Parents (taxpayers) were afraid.
    "All three moms who spoke to us did so on condition of anonymity. Even though parents were never told not to talk to the newspaper, they also fear retaliation from what they see as a vengeful administration." "

    better yet wrote on Nov 4, 2009 11:05 AM:

    " How about this, was it right for the previous school board to renew the contract of an obviously inexperienced superintendent that brought nothing but controversy to this school district? And if not an old board member, who would be your write in choice? "

    would like your opinion wrote on Nov 4, 2009 9:21 AM:

    " summerfun - you didnt answer the question whether the previous board did the right thing in giving tenure to the 3 administrators before their probationary period was over. Did they do the right thing approving this right before election time? Was it fair to the taxpayers of this town? "

    Summerfun wrote on Nov 4, 2009 8:24 AM:

    " Never said I wanted a past boe memember to take a seat again if there a seat available. I want someone in there that will do right by the students, and taxpayers of this town. I don't think anyone who has a lawsuit pending is the right person to make those decisions! "

    Kavanaghs Credentials wrote on Nov 4, 2009 7:02 AM:

    " The tenure of the 3 administrators before the probationary time was another political ploy to cover the Middle School Principal legally now the taxpayers must represent him for all legal matters.Walsh and Morganstern were thrown in for fluff.All if they had any integrity would have turned the illegal tenures down but because of the corrupt Donato and Berger in collusion with Sambets and Pasichnyk the taxpayers are stuck with useless blood suckers.The community voted out Donato and Berger with their last act of vile hatred they tenured these 3 morons.Well now it remains to be seen how the 3 stooges fair without their crazy counter part the previous administrator who propped and covered for the morons.The new Chester BOE is to be commended for their character and ability to make the district employees accountable for education.That's right the word education it got lost in the politics and handing out jobs and monies to keep the hapless crew sliding along.To all the good and dedicated teachers do not be deterred from your professional obligation to do the right thing educate the children and keep them safe.Is anybody surprised Kavanagh's certification can't be found. Why dosen't Kavanagh come clean? "

    looking ahead wrote on Nov 4, 2009 1:30 AM:

    " To summerfun
    Where were you several months ago when board members
    were approving tenures to administrators who did not serve their 3 year term? Was the board then, there for the right reason? It just seems odd that when we
    have 2 new board members and Mrs. Murray as President,
    people want to have Mr. LaTassa step down. Who do you
    think should take his place, a previous board member who lost the election? Then the old board will be in the majority again. Is that what this is all about? "

    Record wrote on Nov 3, 2009 11:26 PM:

    " You can look up school certifications on the NYS Ed Dept sight. http://usny.nysed.gov/public/ Go to the Public Link. then go to TEACH Public Inquiry Link. Type in the name of teacher, psychologist, social worker etc. I could not find Kavanagh. "

    Truth or Consequences wrote on Nov 3, 2009 7:21 PM:

    " A teacher with 25 years or more experience at $500.00 a day at 180 school days to work a year makes $90,400.00 for the year with working practically 6 months a year and that does not include benefits health for the teacher and all family members about another $17.000.00 a year and not counting stipends and retirement benefits sounds pretty dang good. Considering this past administrator did not want to make any of the teacher's accountable or even submit the correct graduation stats. she was lucky to be able to resign with a generous parting package. It is more then she deserved and still there were tears it wasn't enough.She had to cause disruption and anger even though she herself decided to resign.Psychologically it is like the Stockholm Syndrome Pam kavanaugh needs therapy from being hostage to the previous administrator.It would be laughable if it wasn't so transparent on Kavanaugh's part and desperate.Kavanagh give up your credentials to the public legitimize your salary. What do you do for the Chester School District? Kavanagh really needs to be held accountable for her salary it is a lot of money in a troubled economy.What is her job title? "

    Children First wrote on Nov 3, 2009 7:03 PM:

    " The Chester School District settled several sexual harassment lawsuits in April/ May 2008 A Notice of Claim which is just that an intention. No one was dishonest about it. Pervasive discrimination and unfair hiring practices ensued with the previous Supt.many mistakes and down right cover ups were perpetrated favoritism and cronyism was the name of the game. Pam Kavanagh is an example and many Chester employees are aware of what she has been getting away with with the previous administrator.Now is the time for some truth telling.Children have been deeply affected by the outright lies of some employees who followed the previous administrator's policy of shut down, shut up and lie.It is over.Now a small select group of individuals are out to discredit the Chester BOE well it is not working.People are glad this has happened and are looking forward to moving in a positive direction.Mrs. Murray and the Chester BOE deserve all the credit in the world for allowing parents and employees to voice their opinions and ask for answers to questions that they have. Under the previous administrator that would never have been allowed.Why not accept the change and look to the children's futures. "

    Wake up to reality wrote on Nov 3, 2009 4:17 PM:

    " Stop complaining about the interim Superintendent's per diem salary. Besides, there are no perks attached to it.....

    A TEACHER WITH 25 YEARS OR MORE OF EXPERIENCE MAKING $90,000 A YEAR, WORKING 180 DAYS, MAKES $500 A DAY.....
    Has anyone ever done the math???????? "

    Wake Up wrote on Nov 3, 2009 4:14 PM:

    " The man was elected to the position. Everyone knew he filed a claim of notice....Nobody cares. He's doing a great job in undoing what the previous board did to this district. "

    SummerFun wrote on Nov 3, 2009 4:03 PM:

    " There was ni illegal search his son admitted it, nor was his rights violated! Get over it and move past it. He needs to step down, he never said anything about this when he was running, people heard about it and blogged about it. He shouldn't be allowed to continue as a boe memeber he's not thre for the right reason! "

    to hey wrote on Nov 3, 2009 3:10 PM:

    " If I'm remember correctly wasn't the Latassa lawsuit about illegal search? I don't believe that it was for strip searching his child but about violating his rights. And that is no joke... Read a little more closely... "

    I would like to be your friend wrote on Nov 3, 2009 2:40 PM:

    " Just take a look at the secretaries! Aren't they all her dear friends?..... "

    Want to be MY friend wrote on Nov 3, 2009 1:59 PM:

    " We'll nevernow who asked who to leave, we may never know how much HAL made from this golden deal but we do know that the reason she is getting the support from those who are giving it is because now they will be held accountable. Employees will have to all come to work at the same time, no more double dipping for the emplpyee who is getting paid by the district to teach the same time the district is paying her to run intramurals which she cancels on a regular basis. The teachers union whose officers were her buddies settled their contract on time with a nice increase in these economic times with no give backs but the CSEA the lowest paid employees have not had a contract in over a year because we know she looks down at them and wants them to do givebacks,=. What was really strange is the "confidential secty's" the chosen ones by HAL she hired almost every one of them, were given new contracts with salry increases when historicly this district followed the CSEA contract for them also including not giving them raises until they all had a contract. "

    Whos kidding who wrote on Nov 3, 2009 1:41 PM:

    " The hypocrites have spoken. Children are at the bottom of the list. We have a president of the teachers union who goes out of her way to support the former superintendent, but wouldn't support one of her own staff members. I guess they were expecting a great contract when it came time for negotiations. Friends stick together.

    Livingston got rid of herself. Maybe the rest of the unprofessional staff will follow her. "

    hey and wrote... wrote on Nov 3, 2009 1:23 PM:

    " your a comedian i see...giving up on kids...correct me if im wrong here, but i know what i read, but didnt even Latassa's son admit in an article in the THR, that no strip search was ever conducted....he said it....so before you go on this crusade of distruction, better look in the mirror....im thinking you dont even have kids in this district. are you one of Mary's friends that dont live in Chester..hmmm...gotcha "

    and wrote on Nov 3, 2009 1:13 PM:

    " and the others have no merit? It was all just a ploy to get rid of Livinston and make a few bucks? Of course a lawsuit cost money, what about these childrens rights? Have they no value? Remember that these people asked for answers but got the wrath of Livingston instead. Had someone taken the time to find out what really happened and bothered to own up to mistakes being made then just maybe there would have been no lawsuits. Just because you are willing to give up the rights of your children doesn't mean that others should as well.... "

    Here here wrote on Nov 3, 2009 1:12 PM:

    " I think the residents of the Chester School District should collectively file a lawsuit against the three plaintiffs in this case for bringing about a frivolous lawsuit and wasting taxpayer money. "

    hey stop to think wrote on Nov 3, 2009 12:47 PM:

    " are you brain dead or what....a lawsuit cost money just from the standpoint of legal fees being paid by the school. whether its through insurance or what have you..so yeah when Latassa losses this case and he will, its still going to cost us taxpayers plenty...maybe the school should do a counter suit, and make latassa pay for all legal fees if he losses...if that was the case, he would drop this non-sense in a heart beat "

    Stop to think wrote on Nov 3, 2009 11:23 AM:

    " All of these people going on about "now we will pay" Stop and think for a minute. If we do have to pay then that would mean that Mr. LaTassa and the others are correct. The children have been dealt with in an illegal manner. Should we just turn our backs to those that would break the law in search of cigarettes? As for the witch hunt for Kavanagh's duties, why not. Fess up to your credentials. Study the need. Decide the value. Hard questions are always going to be asked. Just answer the questions. "

    Realist wrote on Nov 3, 2009 11:18 AM:

    " How many of your staff have sued the district and how many will sue the district? Nobody ever talks about the staff and their frivilous law suits.....The asylum is being dismantled piece by piece....... "

    hey guess what wrote on Nov 3, 2009 10:38 AM:

    " Get over it.....Everyone knew that he had filed a claim of notice before he was elected........He is a welcome change, and I would vote for the man again and again..... "

    hey guess what.... wrote on Nov 3, 2009 10:07 AM:

    " Mr Latassa's lawsuit has been served to all departments from what i just heard....so all you people who supported change, this is what you got...he was deceitful in never disclosing this case during his election....and now we will all pay...great job people...the only question i have is, how on the BOE can this guy ever vote for anything... "

    here we go....next wrote on Nov 3, 2009 10:04 AM:

    " first is was livingston..and now blog central here in the chester schools has taken aim at Pam kavanagh...when will the inmates stop running the asylum...this poor district.. "

    What Does Pam Kavanagh Receive A Paycheck For wrote on Nov 3, 2009 7:50 AM:

    " Pam Kavanagh can you submit your certification to the interim Supt. so he can know if your really a school psychologist or a full time Teacher's Union Pres. who doesa nothing but supports a now gone administrator who did absolutely nothing to advance education. Remember Ms. Kavanagh only 10 students were listed as graduatating for June 2008 and submitted to New the New York State Dept. of Education.No correction of that figure was ever submitted to reflect the correct number of students who graduatated for Jne 2008 or the few students who graduatated in September 2008 .It appears that your main focus has been to represent an administrator and not even the Teachers who you are designated to represent. Please Ms. Kavangh take an ad out in the Times Herald Record and tell us taxpayers what your job really is for the few hours you show up every day your collecting almost $100,000.00 in salary and benefits if not more.We have a right to know what you do for a living in the Chester School District. Can anyone give any information about Ms. Kavanagh's qualifications and her job title. In a school of less then 1000 students 2 psychologists areneeded? "

    Maybe wrote on Nov 2, 2009 4:22 PM:

    " Maybe the new superintendent can figure out what Kavanagh does. Maybe he can see if we really need all the staff that was hired over the last 3 yrs. "

    New Leadership wrote on Nov 2, 2009 4:14 PM:

    " For the most part we have a very youthful staff of teachers why not change and elect a new president and vice president that are more your contemporary. Out with the old thinking and in with the new. "

    As it should be wrote on Nov 2, 2009 4:00 PM:

    " To Hyporcites. Well said and needed to be said. There are a minute number of employees who without DOUBT benefited during the superintendent's term. Now their perks are gone, some will actually have to report to work on time. The fact is their protection is gone...no Livingston...no board that let this group have free reign. The parents and taxpayers made it clear last May that they wanted to put a stop to all the nonsense. So lets see Donato, Berger, Livingston are gone that leaves two more Pasichynk and Sambets. Maybe now we can get back to education with open discussions from parents and the board on new programs and maybe the return of the gifted and talent. THE WAY I SEE IT THE CHILDREN WILL NOW BE THE FOCUS OF THE BOE AND NOT LIVINGSTON AND HER CRONIES AS IT SHOULD BE. "

    Now Im curious wrote on Nov 2, 2009 3:53 PM:

    " Yes, please tell us what it is exactly that you do. You aren't listed as staff on the school's website. "

    Kavanagh What Do You Do For A Living wrote on Nov 2, 2009 3:48 PM:

    " Kavanagh Pres. of the Teacher's union please elaborate on the impact and the realization of accepting a voluntary resignation.Pam Kavanagh has a strange way of representing the Teacher's Union maybe it is time for her to step down and then what would she do ?The taxpayers are very interested in knowing what your position is in the school district? Are you the school psychologist, teacher, social worker whatever?Can someone clarify your position besides Pres. of the Teacher's Union? What do you do all day or at least after you make it to your office any time you feel like it.Your actions and strange twist on a situation that has absolutely no concern for you or your teachers is amazing to the community that pays your salary.Be careful Miss you cross the boundaries and make threatening statements that almost suggest their will be repercusasions from the actions of the school board.Can you elaborate in a way that makes any sense to the rest of us.How dare you interject your very stupid and misleading propaganda to the Chester Board of Education.No one is irreplaceable and you are shocking in your sense of entitlement to express and think you speak for alltheteachersoftheChesterSchoolDistrict. "

    Hypocrites or just plain old trash wrote on Nov 2, 2009 2:48 PM:

    " This mess isn't about anyone on the board. This mess is about an administrator who made a deal to suit her own best interest. It's about someone/people who decided to make false and inflammatory accusations to The Record. It's about parents concerned about their child? Parents who wanted to to talk about something that happened in June, and waited 2 months to verbalize their concerns. It's about people who are worried about thier taxes and didn't make themselves heard at budget time. This is about people pretending to get an email saying that another administrator is going to be let go. Funny that every email has an address from the sender, but this person said it was sent anonymously. This seems to be about employees spreading untruths. This is about a board member who flapped his mouth about public participation, but forgot to mention that under his regime a public participation was eliminated. This venom and vindictive behavior isn't anything new. However, this group has stepped up to an all new level. "

    this thing is a mess wrote on Nov 2, 2009 10:23 AM:

    " what's next with this school...no one is ever happy here at blog central...mr latassa and his lawsuit are in full swing....taxpayers now paying for 2 supt...does it ever stop.. "

    Good Job Mrs. Murray wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:31 AM:

    " Mrs. Murray did a terrific job of handling the so called crowd.Mrs. Connolly is correct to commend Mrs Murray for the way she handled herself in the face of a lot of undeserved animosity.Ignorance is blissful. "

    rukidding wrote on Nov 1, 2009 9:54 PM:

    " To ask yourself Mrs. Mulvey.. Get over it! Stop making excuses for your children's mistakes, which resulted from the ones you made raising them...Mrs. Mulvey, if you know her, which obviously you do not, is all about children... not sniffling or crying to get what she wants for them, but holding them accountable and truly caring about their well being.. You are so quick to use her name but I noticed you didn't use yours.. Ashamed? you should be... "

    Troublemaker wrote on Nov 1, 2009 7:46 PM:

    " to hmmmm... you don,t have to ask anyone check the minutes if they voted on it, it will be in the minutes. "

    Hmmm wrote on Nov 1, 2009 6:28 PM:

    " Hey Hmmm, nobody can give the teacher's union anything without the approval of the BOE...if anyone got any monies, they had to approve it. She can suggest but they vote..ask them if they did. "

    hmmm wrote on Nov 1, 2009 3:53 PM:

    " Isn't it almost funny that the two people who should be in adverse positions the school administratior/supt. and the pres. of the teacher's union.there not supposed to be cozy and in each others pockets but it appears that is exactly what the situation was.maybe $50,000.00 that livingston put into the teacher's retirement benefits account had something to do with it. "

    Look At The Big Picture wrote on Nov 1, 2009 3:41 PM:

    " The rabble rousers shouted Mrs. Murray back just like Livingston would behave.Interesting.If the tide was turned Livingston would have had the whole bunch arrested instead Mrs. Murray listened. Listenened the key word.Livingston refused to acknowledge or listen to issues of concerned parents.People were afraid to go to the school maybe even some of the rabble rousers. Now with Kavanaugh leading the group to hysteria over a hysteric Livingston. If Livingston carried on the way it has been reported she was unfit to be in a position of authority to care for children she had neither the judgement, discernment, psychological, emotional or physical capacity to do the job.It is clear that the decision to resign was clearly in her best interests. "

    3 Cheers For The Indomitable Mrs. Dottie Connolly wrote on Nov 1, 2009 2:00 PM:

    " Dottie Connolly is a hero in my book.So is Mrs. Murray and the Chester BOE who have done the hard work to put this school district on track.Bravo! "

    Ask Yourself Mrs. Mulvey wrote on Nov 1, 2009 1:53 PM:

    " To Mrs. Mulvey :You ask if Livingston committed murder. Does annihilation of a child's spirit and self esteem come under murder? Does the violation of a child's Constitutional and Civil Right's have any bearing on murder? The protection of all children not just yours should be the question you ask yourself? Are only your children important? As a parent it is our duty to look deeper at the situations that have arisen and ask ourselves is this how we would want our own precious children to be treated. In God's eyes all children are equal and as Jesus stated "Suffer the children unto me". It appears you equate a resignation to murder and what has happened to other people's children in this school district means absolutely nothing to you.It appears you stand judge and jury and have been heard publicly making statements about other people's children who you have no direct knowledge of personally.If you care to bring comment to the public how about being woman enough to go and speak to the families who have suffered irreparable damge at the hands of the policies Livingston has practiced and have allowed the killing of/the/spirit/of/children. "

    Chester School Employee wrote on Nov 1, 2009 1:38 PM:

    " It has also been heard by others that Ms. Kavanaugh discusses families and their personal business freely with anyone without regard to confidentiality or the impact that this negative rendering of her very limited knowledge has on the staff personnel. In effect Ms. Kavanugh sets children up for discusiions and then interperts this information and disperses it to anyone who she feels can better her position or defend those who are violating children right under her nose with her complicit permission and support.The sexual harassment report was a one page synaposis of very biased statements without any input by the parents of children involved. The taxpayers paid six thousand six hundred dollars for this so called investigation by Christine Moore the attorney hired by Livingston who works out of her apartment in Manhattan and has no business address and is not familiar with how a sexual harassment investigation should proceed in the report that the Chester BOE only received 1 page no mention was made that attorney Chrisitne Moore lost 4 tapes and that no stenographer or school attorney was present when the particulars wereinterviewed for instance high sachool teachers were interviewed who have never taught any of the/students/stripped/searched. "

    Spotlight On Truth wrote on Nov 1, 2009 1:29 PM:

    " Eduation was not the primary goal now it is and the Pres. of the Teacher's Union Pam Kavanaugh needs to put her job position in the letter. What certification does she hold? What is her education and credentials? Does she hold another job somewhere else that intereferes with her geting to the Chester School District on time.Is she counselling children without the proper credentials? Is she portraying herself as something she is not and the Chester School District has been paying her salary for the last several years for a job she does not have the credentials or certification to do. Now that Pam Kavanaugh has put herself out there in the most bizarre manner. The spotlight now shines on her place in the Chester School District.It has been rumored she met with an investigator and the Teacher's Union lawyer's to defend the school nurse Carol Schug who was involved in the strip searching of the children with Mr. Jackson's direction.If Pam Kavanaugh defends the innnocent children who had nothing on their persons not even cigarettes can defend and this kind of denigrating treatment of children she is not qualified to be a school psychologist. It suggests a deeply pathological/person/Ms.Kavanaugh. "

    from the Record wrote on Nov 1, 2009 7:55 AM:

    " When last week's rumor that the Chester school superintendent had resigned turned out to be true this week, many were disappointed but not many were surprised. A few board members, including one suing the district, made it clear they would not stop until they pushed out Livingston, and they were willing to pay any price. All of this goes back to allegations of improper actions by some school employees, allegations that have been investigated and found to be without merit. But when some on the board refuse to accept reality and those few hold the balance of power, it's not surprising that the superintendent would get tired of fighting and take the best deal she could.
    At this point, the price the board members are willing to pay includes the continuation of her salary, the daily stipend for a new acting superintendent, the search for a permanent replacement and what is likely to be a sweetheart deal for the next hire. No self-respecting administrator will come into such a hostile atmosphere without some pretty good guarantees.
    And none of that includes the price that Chester pays in other ways by allowing so few with such "

    YEAHOK wrote on Nov 1, 2009 7:03 AM:

    " Dottie Connolly?? Please get serious..... "

    T the Chester Community wrote on Oct 31, 2009 10:12 PM:

    " I think the 1/2 page ad in the Record this week paid for by the Chester Teacher's Association tells us exactly what has been going on in Chester. I have NEVER seen an ad from a union supporting an administrator. So why Chester, they may want you to believe it was because she was the best superintendent they ever worked for but let's think about that. Was Livingston better then Ed Stoddard who dedicated his life to this district, a man who was at work by 7 am and who knows when he went home. She was very hard to find in her office, hardly before 10am and rarely after 5pm, but you could find her bicycling on the trail or kayaking with staff members.
    The REAL reason they supported her is because under her reign they were free to do as they wanted, she refused to evaluate the teachers which she stated emphatically at a board meeting "it is not my job". Staff who were put on improvement plans under previous administration were given the green light by her and no longer had to follow the improvement plans. No wonder some of them are in such support. "

    Good Luck Mr. Hilbaugh wrote on Oct 31, 2009 5:41 PM:

    " To run gainst Paschnyk some names pop up as goood candidates Tim Simpson,the swimmer Taylor Zueber's mom or dad, Sean Tierney or Timothy A. Miller or Dottie Connolly, Mark Goodson, Paige Rose to name a few. This community has lots of good , qualified and knowledgable people with no agendas except to see the children of the Chester School District receive the best possible educations that can be provided.A diverse and unbiased group of free thinkers are the best possible candidates for the outcome for the children. People who are not grounded in blind loyalities to administrators but in providing our children with the best. Let's look forward to working with Mr. Hilburgh and giving him our support to bring peace and needed respectability to our diminished school district. "

    says who wrote on Oct 31, 2009 4:41 PM:

    " Who says we are all supposed to be adults? Man some people try to ruin all the fun... To think you posted as summerfun.. Should have been more like doldrum or maybe dumdum... "

    winterblues wrote on Oct 31, 2009 12:27 PM:

    " I dont think people are trying to outdo each other. I do think that there are people in authority that deliberately tried to embarass one or two of their peers, Making statements through the Times Herald Record or surprise someone at a public meeting because
    you have an audience of supporters is no excuse for such behavior. Writing about people is a reaction. Talking about people in a public forum could be a well planned strategy to change an outcome or a cry for sympathy. "

    Summerfun wrote on Oct 31, 2009 8:20 AM:

    " I don't understand why everyone just doesn't stop trying to out do each other with what they write about people. These people and their families have feelings. How old are you people? We are supposed to be adults, act like it! You may not agree with things that the boe does, says or makes policy on, but you shouldn't tear each and everyone of them apart! Grow up already! "

    Ah yes.. wrote on Oct 31, 2009 12:22 AM:

    " And just who will be the one to replace Pasichynk? "

    To Thanks Bloggers wrote on Oct 30, 2009 11:44 PM:

    " - That which was pasted and copied are not blogs.......They are excerpts from articles that appear in the paper when Pasichnyk was president of the board. It is excellent reporting by the paper. "

    Next to go wrote on Oct 30, 2009 11:26 PM:

    " hey who wants to re-elect Pasichynk? What are you smoking? If Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ,Iran's president, was running against Pasichynk I would have to go with Ahmadinejad. We just got rid of Donato and Berger and John your next. The majority of people in Chester know all about your past antics. just read the blogs below and see your glowing record. "

    Thanks bloggers wrote on Oct 30, 2009 11:26 PM:

    " What you should be saying is - Thanks Chronicle. The blogs you just copy/pasted below are some of the many from the negative campaign that swept the Chronicle blogs - many of which were absolutely disgusting. Personal attacks. Inflamatory slander. And down right lies. The attacks didn't stop with people's work performance. They crossed the line, attacking people's family members, making fun of their clothing, lifestyle, etc. And worse yet, one or two people seemed to actually keep track of what Livingston did after work, and even went as far to encourage other blogs to do the same. This is what caused the so-called pro-chronicle/pro-livingston sides. I commend the Chronicle for doing a much better job now at monitoring these blogs. Those that cross the line are deleted. But, that wasn't the case when this all started. Now that those who wanted Livingston gone got their wish maybe the hatred can stop. It would be great if everyone could stop casting stones and start working together to make sure Chester students receive the best possible education. "

    Thanks John Pasichnyk wrote on Oct 30, 2009 11:21 PM:

    " Before the vote, school board president John Paichnyk cautioned the public that the board had the right to discuss all matters of hiring and firing behind closed doors in executive session, and that no inflammatory or defamatory comments would be permitted. "

    Thanks John Pasichnyk for eliminating one public participation wrote on Oct 30, 2009 11:13 PM:

    " The board recently changed its agenda format. Nothing major, really, except that now a section was added for old business, where the board would give answers to questions posed at the previous meeting, and a change in semantics. Where once there were two public participation section, now there is one public comment section. That didnt sit well...... "

    Thanks John Pasichnyk wrote on Oct 30, 2009 10:57 PM:

    " Parents feel a loss, fear repercussions

    That sense of loss is echoed by parents who used to read about their kids in the paper.

    I used to open The Chronicle and see Chester students in there regularly, one mother said. Maybe Id see a picture my daughter drew, or a picture of her in her Halloween outfit. We looked forward to getting The Chronicle on Friday. I dont rush to my mailbox anymore.

    All three moms who spoke to us did so on condition of anonymity. Even though parents were never told not to talk to the newspaper, they also fear retaliation from what they see as a vengeful administration.




    I have two kids who have to get through the system, said the mother. I dont want to cause any waves. I dont want their names to show up in the paper, their teachers to have any kind of grudge. Were talking about Helen Anne Livingston. Shes the top of the food chain.

    I really think that this is dividing the community, said another mother. I almost feel people are forced to take sides. Youre either pro-Chronicle/or/youre pro-Livingston. "

    Life Lessons wrote on Oct 30, 2009 10:36 PM:

    " Crying crocodile tears.Resignation and a generous parting should not result in tears.It should be a time of reflection and greater understanding of one's limitations.A time to regroup and gain perspective on the process of learning a life experience.Isn't that what teaching is about? Identifying strengths and weaknesses and the ability to acknowledge and accept critical analysis of one's knowledge base. The experience should be enriched by the insight to gain a view that was not self evident at first but has know brought an awareness that can assist in bettering life skills.Professionals don't cry as they walk away with a huge settlement that most don't ever have the ability to receive after failing in a position of administration.Enough of the self pity and self righteous indignation that has no bearing on job performance.Dignity should be the key to this person's very histrionic parting it is embarassing for herself and the community.It is also telling of an extremely immature personality.Can't have it both ways. Resignation means just that letting go. "

    Thanks John Pasichnyk wrote on Oct 30, 2009 10:34 PM:

    " School board bans public from budget committee meetings

    By Susan Cornell
    CHESTER The Chester school board voted Feb. 26 to ban the public from attending meetings of the citizens budget advisory committee.

    Board member Joan Donato called for the ban. Board president John Pasichnyk and member Judi Berger voted along with her. "

    Thanks John Pasichnyk wrote on Oct 30, 2009 10:31 PM:

    " School budget meeting violated open meetings law

    CHESTER The Chester school board and budget advisory committee held a meeting on March 14 that violated the open meetings law.

    The Chester school district has been moving toward greater restriction of public discussion in recent years. In that time the school board and superintendent backed a ban (since rescinded) against recording public comments in school board meeting minutes, attempted to discontinue the citizens budget advisory board; and instituted a ban against any district employee or the school board member from answering questions posed by The Chronicle or sending information of any kind to The Chronicle because of the papers policy allowing public comment on its Web site.

    Only three members of the public, in addition to a reporter from The Chronicle, attended the March 14 meeting. School board president John Pasichnyk checked to make sure the doors were locked so that no member of the public could enter late. But he did allow a committee member to enter after the designated time. "

    Move on wrote on Oct 30, 2009 10:20 PM:

    " Resignation is resignation. "

    To who cares wrote on Oct 30, 2009 10:04 PM:

    " Sh was not corrupt....need to look somewhere else. "

    who cares wrote on Oct 30, 2009 9:48 PM:

    " livingston was corrupt. good riddance. "

    Re-elect Pasichynk wrote on Oct 30, 2009 9:31 PM:

    " TO Chester BOE Winners: I don't think you get it. While some people are upset that Livingston stepped down, the bigger issue is how she was taken down. The editorial in today's Record says it all "A few board members, including one suing the district, made it clear they would not stop until they pushed out Helen Anne Livingston, and they were willing to pay any price."

    Sambets and Pasichynk may not have totally supported Livingston's resignation, but it appears that they were more concerned with the way the school board handled the matter. I commend them for standing up for the people who voted them into office. I for one certainly hope Mr. Pasichynk runs for re-election this coming May. He certainly has my vote. And from I heard about the turnout at Tuesday night's BOE meeting, he has the support of a growing number of other voters. "

    Chester BOE Winners wrote on Oct 30, 2009 7:49 PM:

    " To OMG: Isn't it lovely that now a teacher fears no reprisal if she writes a letter.Before Livingston resigned teachers were afraid to give their names and so were parents.It is not for the public to assume that Livingston is not fully satisfied with her resignation. It appears that others have taken up a fight that does not exist. Livingston resigned plain and simple and the Chester Board of Education voted to accept it.What were Sambets and Pasichynk going to refuse the resignation and force Livingston to report to work against her will. A complete absurdity without any thought process but do you expect any better from two such fellas.Let's get on to bigger and better things and Thank God Mr.Brennan has done such a marvelous job keeping the school well protected financially. That is truly a good thing in this matter.Let's embrace change and let by gones be by gones. The mark of a true winner is the gace to admit defeat and move on to train for the next race. "

    Chester is paying the price wrote on Oct 30, 2009 7:05 PM:

    " Copied from today's Times Herald Record. This is what everyone is Orange County thinks about Chester:
    ..."A few board members, including one suing the district, made it clear they would not stop until they pushed out Helen Anne Livingston, and they were willing to pay any price...
    At this point, the price the board members are willing to pay includes the continuation of her salary, the daily stipend for a new acting superintendent, the search for a permanent replacement and what is likely to be a sweetheart deal for the next hire. No self-respecting administrator will come into such a hostile atmosphere without some pretty good guarantees.

    And none of that includes the price that Chester pays in other ways by allowing so few with such a narrow agenda to hold such a narrow agenda to hold such power." "

    Respect goes both Ways wrote on Oct 30, 2009 6:22 PM:

    " In order to get respect you need to earn it. This women demanded respect thinking that her title alone was reason enough to get it. She gave no respect to those that disagreed with her. This town had nothing to do with the undoing of Ms. Livingston, she was inexperienced at her job and it showed. She was the cause of her own failure no one else. Never in the History of Chester schools has a superintendent brought so much controversy, turmoil and animosity to it as this wanna be superintendent has. The only real shame is that some people fail to see her shortcomings, short temper and unwillingness to accept another persons point of view. This is what you have, another point of view and there is nothing wrong with that. "

    OMG wrote on Oct 30, 2009 4:49 PM:

    " I read a wonderful letter to the editor in The Orange County Post yesterday from one of the teaching staff in Chester. regarding her feelings on what has happened to Ms. Livingston, I agree what a loss to Chester. Such a shame what this town did to this woman. I fully expect that I will be slammed by the bloggers that truly did not give this woman the respect that she deserved and the support of this community. Shame, truly a shame. "

    Will the real wrote on Oct 30, 2009 3:11 PM:

    " Will the real Ms. Kavanaugh please stand up? Or maybe just show up on time! "

    Question wrote on Oct 30, 2009 2:35 PM:

    " What does Pam Kavanaugh do? Is she the school psychologist, guidance counselor,social worker or teacher.No one knows what she does beside her title as Chester Union Teacher's Pres. is she paid a salary to represent the teacher's union and nothing else. There are NO CERTIFICATIONS FOR HER NAME UNDER THE ABOVE TITLES OF PROFESSIONS FOR NEW YORK STATE. WHAT DOES SHE DO FOR THE CHESTER SCHOOL DISTRICT ? WHAT IS HER PROFESSION? Does she counsel children or represent the teacher's at the taxpayers expense. Can anyone give an accounting of her day to day schedule? Ususally arrives later in the morining then the rest of the staff.So it is possible to see why she is very much vested in Livngston's continued employment as it guarantees her own.Can anyone give a head's up on who she is and what she does as far as job title and function? Would Ms. Kavanaugh herself like to opine? "

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